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1-2-4 as 1/24th = THE ONE TWENTY FORTH OUT OF PHASE DISCOVERY 2025-11-01 : Pls DOWNLOAD a WebsiteCopy with a program like http://www.httrack.com & then click on file named "index.html" , to explore this One24thOutOfPhase info OFFLINE on your DESKTOP PC with your Default Brouwser. 01 November 2025 = 2.34 GB of Website files Total. email = m.junkyardinnovations@gmail.com 08-02-2023 Updated ! Also see https://junkyardinnovations.info/EB-CoreCodeblock.html for Math Page See the:- One24thOutOfPhase & EbMec40 videos below the Black Swan ! A Collapsible & Pivoted SQUARE Connected to a CIRCLE acting as a Crank, when Rotated then lead to the One24thOUTofPHASE Discovery at the SQUARES 2 Free ENDS. This MECHANICAL hardwired PRINCIPLE lead to all sort of interesting possibilties. Please read on.... 30May2022=The above is what the below *.bas & *.exe display! 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To one who is a "severe amateur" dabbler in Mathematics, such as myself, it does appear that some of the professional interest has somewhat become concentrated on the abstract investigation of Mathematics, especially related to the science of Physics theory and also hard to understand Mathematical Theorems and the laborious proof thereof. 1 This observation then not being a criticism of the professionals but rather a 'grudging' acknowledgment of we may have come to take for granted ; Only so as to call attention to this humble observation;- that sometimes that natural drive “to move on”, can cause us to miss or overlook something , yes maybe just a mundane thing and of no 'immediate' great value. Yet in this case, of Twine Wave Shapes, it is proposed that Something of a Profoundly important nature;- Relating to the relationship between a Circle and a Square and to some extent the Triangle has been 'left undiscovered', that is up to now ;- Uncovered by a act of mere stumbling upon, admittedly. 3 ' Left undiscovered ', you may frown ...} : ? An even deeper historical "suspected mathematical" link exists but we keep that one on ice for now due to its unsavory nature relating - that is before mathematical clarity prevail. Not to worry that you may be kept in the ' unknown ' though, it will be 'reluctantly' served up later when the matter becomes completely 'geometry wise' unavoidable. 4 Well ...what then is this so-called 'Overlooked' and 'Left undiscovered' Relationship between a Circle and a Square ? 6 So what do these above "Wavy Shapes" have that require our attention ? Before that answer is attempted, see below some even "Stranger" Twine Waves and note that these Twin wave shapes are NOT just Random "Wavy" Shapes Subtracted from each other that then can give a Midway Sine Wave as a Resultant though we do not really need to pursue the Sine wave form here. The TWINE Waves themselves, are VERY specific Wave shapes that are NOT at all derived from Fourier Transforms , but from a Unique Formula that Mathematically Describe This Particular Circle + Square Relationship, we may as well call it the EB- Formula. ( This Formula will be given Graphically and in a Basic Program Form Later in this Writing ) So here is then those promised more Twine Waves Shapes. These Twines below is called : SLURP Twines These Twines below is called : SHARD Twines These Twines below is called : SLUMP Twines These Twines below is called : STUMP Twines (see if you can Spot the difference from SLUMP Twines ) These Twines below is called STEEP Twines 7 Yes there are other variants and these Shapes are from Two Families of Twine and yes you can discover them all when you run the EB- Program that will be later made available ( Free of course ) for download. Now However let there be an attempt to answer that Question posted above :- So what does these above "Wavy Shapes" have that require our attention ? 8 At the risk of being mind numbing ( considering that one person described the previous Website as " pages of gibberish about some supposedly new function that has deep meanings" ) here then is the "Proper" Word description of what 'Twin waves' is ( for those who did find the Previous Web site fascinating as was also indicated by e-mail ) may this ( mid year 2012) website then be more clear , I hope ....... 01) “TWINE WAVES” refer to 2 Sets of Waves of Complex Variable Shapes each. 02) One Set called Stable=Realistic Twines 03) and the other Set called Unstable=Elastic Twines. 04) They are generated Geometrically as Double waves in each Set 05) and are 'related' to the Sine wave fundamental by means of a Fourier Subtraction result. 06) These Double or Twin Waves are created by the Dynamiclinking of a Circleand a Square. 07) The Twin waves in all cases are at 1/24th phase difference within each set of Twines. ( Interesting since Prime Numbers and the Integer 24 seem to Like each Other a Lot ! ) See ( http://primes.utm.edu/curios/page.php/24.html ) 08) One of the Twin waves is a Mirror and a Flipped version of the other Wave. 09) A single Formula drive the creation of each Twine couple So the Fourier Subtraction Resultant of the Twin Waves always is a Perfect Sine Wave though the Complex Twin waves Shapes themselves are not derived from a Fourier process, rather being the result of a unique single Formula. The Dynamic Linking of the Circle & Square has been shown above Graphically but lets continue with some Postulate as to why these Mathematical /Geometrical Twine waves should be considered important enough to deserve your further attention even though some has a random look about them. Let's make a big jump here from Geometry to Physics considering that we all accept that the universe do operate on Mathematical Principles, some known but a “lot” still undiscovered. 9 Postulate ONE ( i ) Knowing then that all particles Vibrate:- Twine Wave Variable Shapes are proposed as the real motion track of such Particle behavior instead of the Sine Wave track we so far assumed for Particle motion. Yes it is suggested as real particle X – Y coordinate motion,not probability of position stuff here. ( ii ) Added to this audacious proposal is another thought ;- that most particles in their natural state 'prefer' to move in this “Sine resultant “ balanced relationship in a paired state, thus Closely Doubled !. { The above postulate so far is really two distinct thoughts but since the subject is about twinning.....! ( iii ) Therefore in such a Twin relationship each Particle Couple will try to remain, unless violently torn apart such as in an atomic smashing situation after which the now single particles will behave with Soliton { see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton } wave properties till they come together again as they will tend to or find other mates to reform Twine Wave Couples. ( iv ) This may begin to explain the detection it seems in recent years of particle correlations in atom smashers, that is, an 'inclination to move together' on the part of some particles. I speculate that more of this may become apparent in the particle detection process as the sensitivity of those sophisticated machines and of course the insight-fullness of the learned ones advance. ( v ) { For some background info see .....http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=107440 and also try , try very hard please, to read this..........http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access? contribId=7&sessionId=1&resId=0&materialId=slides&confId=140054 ( vi ) Yes I know it is tough as old nails but the gist of it is that there has been observed in both a USA based accelerator 1st in their copper - ion smashing experiments circa (before or during) 2010 'ish and later in proton collision experiments at Cern sometime during 2011, that some particle collision aftermath results seem to move in a similar direction / manner ;- hence the description Angular Correlation are used to begin to describe that “new” line of 'smashed' particle behavior investigation. ( vii ) See Word Definition : Correlation = : http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/correlation See definition 3 = Statistics = the degree to which two or more attributes or measurements on the same group of elements show a tendency to vary together. ( Definitions @ the Dictionary.com link = thnx ( viii ) ( See some musings here in the link below { the first 40 plus pages are named : iam or gates theory } as to why this 'Correlation' stuff matters in this raw and unfinished work I intend to name : ON MOTION AND MORE if ever I do complete it.) https://junkyardinnovations.info/iam=ImaginaryAtomicModel-or-gates_theory(AN-UNFINISHED-WORK).pdf and below ( ix ) is some EB Programs ( Still the Basic Stuff - Later the more Advanced one will be published ) with the EB Core Calculation Code Block separated and also see a poem;- that summarizes some theoretical thoughts as to why this Twin Wave stuff may be useful. Also See Copy Right Waiver and EBSimplexleg Postulate ONE Conclude. Now on to Number Two... Postulate TWO Conclude. Now on to Number THREE... ( xv ) Naturally it is not only Medicine that would benefit since to name just a few not too radical thoughts.... What about artificially making Wood products that cannot be differentiated from the trees being cut down today in their vast numbers. Or artificially making Beef ( or what ever else ) Protein without using the roundabout "test tube" methods Scientist are attempting today to grow food , hamburgers it seems, in the lab involving tricky Gene manipulations, because one would be able to WORK TOWARDS constructing any 'edible' ( or not ) Protein from the foundation up so to speak..... IF ONLY WE KNOW HOW COME THEY FOLD THE WAY THEY DO. Need I go on....? No not really, I will leave the rest to your own imagination. ( xvi ) ( LATER = Got to go now ........25th of November 2013.) Please use this below email address for Contact : m@junkyardinnovations.com or m.junkyardinnovations@gmail.com or m___@mail.com GIBBERISHANSWERTXT : SEE BELOW
1-2-4 :- You know this number Sequence as for instance, 1 cell that become 2 and then 4,
being the start up sequence of Biological growth.
In the eb introduction, you will also recognise these numbers as making up
the fraction 1/24 as it apply to this ‘new’ eb linkage / pendulum stuff.
This fraction then is difficult or more likely impossible to just discern with the unaided eye,
was noticed in geometric tinkering, as hiding in plain sight when analysing a relationship between a
Common Square and an Ordinary Circle while these two
"Simple" Geometric Shapes are connected to each other in a particular mechanical arrangement.
The 1/24 reveal come when motion is introduced into the Circle that then act as a Crank
( yes crank like in Bicycle ).
With a Pivot supporting the Collapsible Corner Hinged Square which Square is also fixed
to the Now Moving Crank to the direct opposite corner to the Square's Pivot Corner;-
something unexpected happen at the 2x remaining free opposing corners of the Square.
What is this unexpected thing then?
It be this:- While the Left free Square point does move in comparison to the
Right free point of the Square in the Expected Reverse / Mirrored or flipped manner
as a Normal See-Saw's end points do but an ADDITIONAL THING HAPPEN at the free Corners.
The EB Square Circle Geometry produce something of critical importance in addition that
have been unnoticed up to Now.... This is it:- The Opposing free points of the now
moving Square is...OUT OF PHASE or Out of Step for BOTH 180°that is 1/2 Portions of
the 360° Full rotation of the crank.
Putting aside for a moment the 180°consideration, lets Focus on the question;-
How much is the Out of Step then.........
The answer is as you figured by now;- Exactly One Twenty Forth Out of Phase/Step.
Yes;- the free points Literally Jump out of Phase in Relation / Comparison
o each other by 1/24th, when Rotary motion Start in the Crank. 


the fact that the human mind need to move on from the so called "elementary knowledge", referring
here to our understanding of the qualities of those 'Geometry Basics' ;-
some mathematical info on the study of Chaos theory see http://theconversation.com/explainer-what-is-chaos-theory-10620 that being a general
'soft introduction thus easy' description of Chaos theory & please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamical_billiards to which the
mention of a Circle's chaos properties are referring , a billiard ball being ' the Circle ' here. A little bit tougher to 'chew' though { : (
to 'recent' years past activities on the world stage, thus not to stoke ( as yet ) some, well founded legitimate resentments as anticipated ;- 
and the Twine Waves on the Far Right ( Done with a CAD Program ) are called : ...................SUPER TWINES .....on account of their flowing form being so pleasing to the eye.
( I nearly forgot to mention that these Variation in Wave shapes are made by Simply changing the Distance between the Pivot and the Square
Once for each complete 360 rotation only
( Not a pulsed / dynamic Changing ;- that's for later ) and also for the Elastic set of Twines the Trace Circle rotate Counter to
the Big Crank circle......
Don't worry all will be made clear in a very Graphic manner later. No differentiation is made in these Twine Name
Descriptions of which twine belong to the Elastic / Unstable set and which belong to the Realistic / Stable set ........
This being just an intro into the "weird" or "Chaotic looking" wave shapes that is hidden in this very basic Circle - Square Relationship. )
}Postulate no. 2
Postulate no. 3
( i )
This relate to Protein forming regarding to the as yet Mysterious reason as to why
a Particular String of Amino Acids would Always fold the same way
while it really Could have folded into Many other Possible 3D Combinations.
It is like Dropping a Long String with a lot of Knots in it and that string always ,
but always fall in a Heap of 3D string that is always
3D Shaped exactly the same, yes every time for that Particular Combination
of String Length / Knot Type.( ii )
First read this please:-
http://phys.org/news/2012-08-mystery-protein-nobel-laureate-insights.html
( iii )
By the way ...It does seem that
some ( other ) Websites on Protein Folding seems to glance over the fact that the
Folding of Proteins Exact reasons and mechanisms, are still largely undiscovered as at
this date of 8th of November 2013.( iv )
These Websites ( which will remain unnamed ) make generalized and vague statements on this topic ,
based on unproven theoretical / assumptions,
( Reminding me not to State My Own Theories as fact. )
on this 'How do Proteins Fold to their Final Shape' topic,
thus offering no clue to the uninformed reader that the Mystery of Protein Folding
even exist and still remain largely unsolved.( v )
Not everyone do glance over this important topic though.
In this regard I do note that there are those sites that make it abundantly clear that they
as yet are making a theoretical Statement or tentative experiment and observations that seem to
lean in the direction of a particular Theory.( vi )
For instance See here:-
http://phys.org/news76329515.html#nRlv
Please take note of this quote from...
http://phys.org/news/2012-08-mystery-protein-nobel-laureate-insights.html
"A polypeptide chain [ a more precise word for Protein ]could spend more time than the age of the universe “trying” all of its possible conformers
to find its native one. In reality, folding never takes more than a few seconds. "
( Read the article to see the context please...)
Now compare the above clear statement from a Nobel laureate summation ;-to this 2ND quote.
( Once again, I won't mention this website directly )
"The final shape adopted by a newly synthesized protein is typically the
most energetically favorable one.
As proteins fold, they test a variety of conformations before
reaching their final form, which is unique and compact."
Now while it may actually be correct ( If one day finally Confirmed / Proven to be so )
this above quotation from the 2ND Webpage's article on that particular page
and at that time of my reading it ( also 8 Nov 2013 )
do make this statementin a context, according
to my " limited " insights, that may give
the impression that thereIs
a full understanding of
how / why Proteins fold in their particular 3D configurations,
thus COMPLETELY obscuring the
fact that this process is really still a mystery if one read only that article on the subject.( vi i )
My disagreement with this 2ND Websites statement is summed up in this here below's reasoning.....
If a Protein chain ( before folding ) were to"test" all conformations
( taking not the time equivalent to the age of the universe to test ALL Possibilities )
but taking ' no more than a few seconds ' before getting to
"the most energetically favorable one" then it seems that somewhere in the Timeline
a Amino acid Chain in the process of becoming a Protein
Do " Decide " on
A form WITHOUT TESTING ALL Possible Shapes
( IT JUST DO NOT HAVE THE TIME ! )
and whether it is the " most favorable energetically expression of form "
cannot be determined ( with our current knowledge ) from our human viewpoint since we
just do not see how it, the Polypeptide chain,
could have tested all possibilities of Chain configurations, even though the particular Protein
Chain seems to "know" what form it must belong before All possibilities were tested.
( To say the same thing in a Double manner for emphasis ) ( viii )
Perhaps these reasoning's above begin to Un-Obscure the issue for you if there was such a need.
However before moving on to my speculated connection between Twine waves and Protein forming,
I need to take one more stab at those who Obscure.( ix )
My problem is with statements that give the impression ( I will not quote any websites directly here... )
that the Amino Acid Side Chains do the driving of the Protein final shape to a large degree
and there the idea is left without further clarification.
Now once again while that may one day prove to be true,\the issue here is that we as yet
do not fully know of the mechanism
( unless you can inform me otherwise, besides the theoretical proposals )
that drive those Side groups into a particular Snap 3D Form 'Vibration' Configuration .( x )
To see my issue with such above mentioned statements, let's do some reasoning like the following....
For instance let's call the First Side Chain of a "Small" Protein with
only 100 Amino Acids ( in whatever ) sequence, the no.1 Side Chain. Now the issue arise :- How do no.1 Know what sort of alignment / "final" position
it need to have in relation to for instance no.80 Side chain.
This Question is valid and not to be obscured since we as yet do not
with our 'fine' instruments detect some sort of Force emanating from no.1 Side Chain
that Play beyond it's immediate neighborhood of Molecular Bonding Forces so as to reach across
ALL of the Side chains ( the other Side chains then doing same ) and thus 'Broadcast' their respective
positions to each other WHILE THE POLYPEPTIDE CHAIN IS STILL ( briefly ) IN IT'S UNFOLDED FORM.
( Yes just a Linear string of amino acids , each with it's various side chains =
It helps to visualize it as a TV Arial with side spokes emanating from it's Main Axis ).
( xi )
The Mechanism or Process ( at a lack of better expressions ) that does the Pulling / Folding, together into the Various alignments,
thus remain Unseen / Undiscovered / Largely Unproven, as at this date of 8 November 2013.
Yes one must allow for the idea that one Side chain will have an influence on it's Immediate neighbors
on the Linear ( Flat ) Amino Acid side chain however that in itself does not suggest some sort of Detectable
Domino Falling, Shaping Force at play among the Side Chains that drags / KNITS the rest ( the all of ) the Amino acid's Side chain
into an Alignment that is Specific for that particular Amino Acid/Side Chain Sequence.
Thus from the viewpoint of our Limited insights, that Amino Acid/Side Chain Sequence Could have
easily have clumped into any random shaped clump within the mathematical combination "limitations"
which of course can be quit a lot of combinations for this 100 member long Amino Acid Chain.
Of course One of them would be the useful Protein if all combinations be tried. ( xii )
And just a thought for those who firmly believe that all Biological life forms as we know is one giant
fortuitous but accidental coming together of molecules, this thought :-
If just one critical Protein or maybe a few of them Chains were
still busy trying their Optimal 3D configurations( Taking longer than the age of the Universe you remember )
then that would make life
( Any life based on Proteins = and I do not Know of any that is not ),
pretty much impossible.
Only a willingness to Ignore mathematical fact can see a mind Past that point of Impossibility, yes if one were more inclined to stick to a believe that the complexity of the multitude of lifeforms,
are due to a tumbling together of things under the " leading's " of blind chance.
( xiii )
Well Clearly we see that those Amino Acids are being 3D Stitched together by means of a as yet
unknown Choosing / Shaping Law, into their Functional Shapes, that we as yet cannot put our collective finger on.( IT IS NOT JUST THE SIDE CHAINS IT SEEMS. MORE IS REQUIRED.)
( xiv )
So why does it matter that we should want to know the exactitude of this Mysterious Protein Folding Process ?
At the risk of stating the obvious let see in a very limited way, what we can benefit if we could figure out how a Protein
would look in i'ts 3 D form if we could model it from an Amino Acid sequence only.
Check out the Website mentioned below ( again please ) to see there a reference to a diseases that involve
a 'wrongly' folded Protein.
Now what could we do if we take our know how of how it should have been folded
and
Combine it with the Still Elusive Foundation Knowledge How to Fold Proteins.....need I go on ?
See a quote below from the Website mentioned above....
" It is still impossible to predict from the amino acid sequence how the corresponding protein will fold.
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-08-mystery-protein-nobel-laureate-insights.html#jCp "SO NOW WE RETURN TO THE TWINE OF THINGS...
( Yes Unproven to exist in nature as yet .... but Mathematically / Geometrically VERY MUCH real )
The Speculative Idea "Connecting" Twine waves Specific & Uniquely Shaped Wave forms,
here with Protein forming
is rather 'Simple' ,
this being it.....
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Notes from m___ 'some' relating to this one comment above :-
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In the Desire or Need to Express an Opinion it is not always possible to match the Time needed to inform oneself
so as to come to a well weighted, with factual scientific insightful, conclusion, on the part of some.
Making a sweeping statement which is expected, towards the Theoretical musings/ speculations,
WITHOUT EXCLUDING
the simple easy to prove for oneself Geometry / Maths,
suggest a lack of time at the least, since one would not want
However, Thanks is due for steering some, appreciative, traffic to that previous website, from even this negative comment
as I discerned from e-mail.
briefest of perusal though this may be difficult if not impossible to achieve for all minds given the
shortness of the attention span in this information glutted age.
{ toooo looong ?!!! }
To which glut I gladly add of course !
In addition some 'history':-
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The reason for re-doing this site mostly relate to the restrictive nature of the previous host.
This new host allow more options.
I trust that those who found the previous site fascinating, will get it, that simplifying things will not
mean losing the "deep meanings" of the stuff previously given.
An observation :-
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I am delighted to see that some are using the Twin wave EB- Calculations Graphics on their various sites
even on tmblr.
That Fine;- it's yours to use as you please, - though my preference do lean towards Mathematics instruction
as I also saw on a Math's teacher's Website
( Displaying EB-Geometry 'Pythagoras Applied' Calculations )
since the, simple easy to check, Geometry can benefit us with
more Calculus insights one day when some
Mathematics genius show us
how to really apply it
even beyond my
speculations.
Perhaps some at the Universities / Colleges & Electronic companies, who has been recorded on my visitors
log, are already using the EB-formula to explore possibilities like additional data carrying capacity
within the now somewhat glutted Cell phone channel frequency spectrum,
even if the Twin waves idea itself
MAY
prove to be non-existent,
( .....in spite of things like "quantum entanglement" to which it suggest deeper insights etc..... )
the EB maths can still be applied to such venture's in
an emulation mode.
If only they could reveal some of their direction of thought, yet I realize they have to play it
close to the chest....
Patent's and Claims...I know
Not of course due to any worry that I may claim since I already renounced such.
The Eb stuff is really free : )
And then this unsavory stuff :-
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My only concern is that at least in two instances, serious attempts was made to link
this Mathematical Geometry Twin wave stuff to 'fringe science' unverifiable mystic ideas,
an act which
I GREATLY DISCOURAGE
but of course
I am not able to stop such mention of Twin waves on those
mystic sites as these ones seek some sort of "prove" for their ideas.
The TOTALLY THEORETICAL / SPECULATIVE idea
that more data may be carried / 'hidden' in the electromagnetic frequencies as suggested
by the EB-Twin wave variable wave structures....as opposed to the assumed 'up to now ' sine wave form...
unfortunatelydo draw the attention of the mystics.
To Restate :
NOT "yet" PROVEN AS EXISTING OUTSIDE OF
THE MATHEMATICAL / GEOMETRY FRAMEWORK.
And I anticipate then that even IF one day Proven to exist,
Twine waves will never , ever prove to be a Bases for concluding
about stuff that belong to the Complexity of HUMAN FREE WILL
Even Twin waves conceptually in it's GEOMETRICAL Complexity of Wave forms
must prove to be Very, VERY much INFERIOR to the COMPLEXITY OF THE HUMAN MIND.
The 'gibberish' comment above was drawn from someone that saw such a link from a 'mystic' to my site.
The sober reality it seems is that the company
that
KEEPS YOU,
even uninvited,
due to the nature of the internet,
influence the forming of opinion on the part of some.
Optimistically though :
I do note that most readers of my site are of such nature that they
Thanks for noting that just because some "flies" are gathering around does not mean that the object of attention
seem to have more stamina for the scientific,
that include theoretical physics
( which indeed is "gibberish" to most "sane" people)
and of course easily verifiable
geometry/mathematics and are able to see past that sort of
'mystic attachment attempts'.
is rotten, it might actually be some desirable piece of fresh cake ! 'Swat' the "flies" away and see for yourself !
A request :-
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Please enlighten me if you are inclined to such kindness,
as to your thoughts about
the "Newness" of this
Circle connected with a Square Geometry
other than the Puaecellier-Lipkin linkage which was already commented on by a
Professor of Mathematics Specializing in Geometry
who at that time initially thought that the EB Linkage was the same thing.
It is actually using the same Number of Links
but with only the Pivot being in a different place
causing the EB to be a
True Curve generator
( as opposed to an ARCH generator )
on it's Extensions while the Pauecillier-Lipkin Linkage is meant
for generating straight lines.
Other learned one's such as a Doctor in Statistics,
a Maths Student and his Mathematics Lecturer at a well known
University,
also indicated upon being explained / shown this EB stuff in person, that they never had come across
something like this in their studies.
So therefore my "tentative" claim to "Newness"
added to my own scrounging around
from about 1986 till now (year 2012) to search out something like this EB- Twin wave Mathematics.
All I could "come" up with is a 'suspicion' ( No real proof that is ) that this simple Circle + Square Relationship
principles might have been discovered a few thousand years ago in what is called the Middle East today
but only a Historical symbol originating from that region which
I "recognized" as being exactly CORRESPONDING to the
essential 'Geometry / actually Trigonometry' of the Eb - Calculations
coordinate Maths. You will spot this Symbol when you check out the Trace Circle Geometry.
In addition, there is the possibility that someone in Europe at the later part of the 16 hundred's could have made used
of the 1/24th out of phase principle that is 'Hard-wired' in this Circle Square relationship but unfortunately the Maths of
that work remain 'lost' to us till today it seems. This last possibility of Prior discovery, remain then even more Un-provable
than the Middle Eastern connection.
Nevertheless I remain open to the idea
that this stuff might have been discovered before,
considering the fact that after thousands of years of Geometry efforts that took place,
how would it be possible for this Simple but Fascinating 1/24th Out of Phase relationship
between the
Elementary Circle
and the
Common Square,
to go
Unnoticed ?
Hardly likely , I 'feel'!
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However since "suspicious feelings based on very flimsy similarities" is not proof, I do present it as "New" at least for our Generation Today.
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You are of course asked to indicate whether you indeed did see such "EB like" stuff,
elsewhere, before and correct my perspective on
things.
That would be
much appreciated and
any acknowledgement will be given
upon such proof provided.
( A previous claim that this Twin wave stuff was thought of about 70+ years ago was unfortunately not backed up with any record of
Mathematics nor did that 70+ year old Idea itself directly match, that is Geometrically correspond to EB - Geometry ....So please be thorough ! )
Any thoughts to :-
m.junkyardinnovations@gmail.com
Thnx from m___